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ElTigreNegro
X has influence from glam bands, but it's from bands like Mr Big and Kiss. Some of their songs have a strong 80s sound simply because, well, it was the 80's when they made them.
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LightRed
Hair metal and glam rock are like visual kei and j-rock - none of them are music genres and still everyone classifies bands as those. Sure X's outfits and hair were influenced by glam, their music had a slight Kiss influence and some Jealousy songs and Standing Sex sound a bit like Mötley Crüe, but nevertheless their early heavy sound was taken from german speed metal and nwobhm.
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Shimbo-dono
X Japan was influenced by hair metal and glam rock bands primarily. I guess you could apply Iron Maiden to a much lesser extent. To say, however, that Iron Maiden and X Japan sound very alike is stupid because they don't have many similarities.
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LightRed
Once again I see you didn't understand anything I said. And you can say anything you please, but it's a straight fact that X JAPAN was influenced by bands like Iron Maiden and early Helloween. Kurenai's original guitar solo was ripped from Helloween's Ride the Sky and the Blue Blood album has certain elements that remind me a lot of Iron Maiden and Queensrÿche. Every band is influenced by something or someone, you just need to have a diverse music taste to see who are influenced by what.
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Shimbo-dono
And to the guy who said this should be merged with J-rock: Honestly, they might as well. I wouldn't really want it. But seeing as how almost everybody who listens to some VK band labels them j-rock it's the same shit. The vast majority of Japanese music listeners don't even listen to Japanese music that isn't VK. So go for it.
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Shimbo-dono
@LightRed: When did you post here? I don't see it. And please stop assuming my gender. There's a reason why I choose to utilize the internet's anonymity. Also I have no idea what you're talking about? What post? Is it buried under here sometime three months ago or something. Iron Maiden's guitar tone (ala Powerslayer) heavily influenced many, upon many of melodeath bands. This was decades ago. Now they are just run of the mill heavy metal. The reason why I said melodeath is because it would help to show the contrast between them and X Japan.
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Shimbo-dono
Whereas if you had said that L'Arc is more pop-rock orientated and teh GazettE more nu-metal/alt metal they would understand their is a huge difference.
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Shimbo-dono
Essentially, if a person were to ask you what type of band L'arc is and then ask what type of band the GazettE is and you replied each time "j-rock" the person who asked you would have no idea that the bands sound absolutely NOTHING alike.
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clytie_hizashi
Eventually, I hope that genres break down to the point when every band is in its own genre. Then we'll realize that music is music, and people can just listen to what they want, instead of being confined by largely corporate-defined compartmentalization.
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clytie_hizashi
It's all music. Genres themselves are stupid in my opinion. This one is just slightly more stupid, in that it doesn't describe the actual music.
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chokklatMOOSE
@Shimbo-dono: I'm sure it would be better for everybody if you kept your opinions to yourself. Even though I can agree with many of the things you are saying, people don't post in the shoutbox to pick fights (most of the time), and would rather be left alone. Anyways, the point of the shoutbox isn't for discussion.
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Shimbo-dono
Lol seriously. Being as how grunge heavily influenced subsequent rock music in American and how American and UK artists/bands are the most popular worldwide, I would be shocked to know if someone did not know what grunge is. Not that I particularly care for the genre.
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Shimbo-dono
@skillracoon: ??? When did I ever say grunge was not a musical genre? And you did say, "too bad that most of j-rock is a sad attempt to grunge" which to a person with a decent English comprehension would understand that you mean that Japanese rock is, for the most part, an attempt to replicate grunge. That is bullshit. That is why I responded in such a manner to illustrate that grunge influence in j-rock is very rarely found.
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skillracoon
on the second thought, i probably do not want you to bring up the list of albums. please certainly don't. Dx
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skillracoon
lol your post amused me and your post also confused me. so are you inclining that grunge isn't music? i never said that most of j-rock is grunge. and i doubt the other genres you've listed (lol pop) from your so called "albums upon albums", aren't any different from my "j-rock sounds like grunge" opinion either. so go ahead and list them, i want to feel astounded as well. especially on your generalization of grunge not being music.
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Shimbo-dono
@skillracoon: So you have listened to most j-rock? I am just astounded when people come and just spread these generalized notions about something so different as music. Grunge in j-rock. Please point out to me at least 10 songs that you would consider grunge j-rock. And I'll reply with albums upon albums of j-rock with electronic, punk, jazz, blues, pop, hip-hop, and metal influences that doesn't strive to be anything but what it is, music.
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Shimbo-dono
The caps thing for English-titled songs is just the way they do it. It's Japan. It's a different country. They do things the way they want. A possible reason could be though, that first they had the title in katakana, which is used to spell foreign words/names, and transliterated it into English. Katakana is also all caps to shows a differentiation from normal kanji. Also romaji, Japanese kanji spelled with Roman letters for Western audiences to pronounce, is retarded. Don't use it. It looks ugly. And X Japan sounds NOTHING like Iron Maiden. Speed metal vs. early melo-death? How is that alike?
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Shimbo-dono
And lol at the smart-ass that said that Japanese vocalists have unique voices and sing in a way he hates. So ALL Japanese vocalists sing the same way? So you've heard every single Japanese vocalist and hated the way they sing? Hmm. Anyway, please understand there is a cultural difference. Not everyone can sing in the same way all over the world. Also understand that different languages have different pronunciation and therefore different vocal melodies to match the singing. I recognize that this was just some smartass who came up with a dumb reason to hate on "j-rock" and by extension all Japanese music.
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Shimbo-dono
This tag is ridiculous. I listen to supposed "j-rock" but I don't label it as such. It's just rock or metal or punk or whatever the genre is. Just because the language is different and it originates from another country does not mean it should have it's own tag. If that were the case then Avril Lavigne would be Canadian-rock or Epica would be Dutch-metal or Shakira would be Colombian pop-rock. It doesn't make sense. The band/artist is still making the music of that genre. Also, on the Japanese music being unique, I would have to concur to an extent. The reason is that rock music did not originate in Japan and therefore Japanese bands/artist draw from a wide array of influences and don't limit themselves to one genre. An artist in Japan could make one ball crushingly heavy song and then followed up by a bubblegum pop ballad and it would be accepted. If that happened in the US it would be difficult to market the artist and the general populace would probably be confused.
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NittaShun2
I don't care if it's J-rock or Japanese Rock it's just that I like what I listen to
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LightRed
"If people would even bother to listen to jrock in the first place before leaving an annoying comment they would see that it is its own genre and nothing like American rock or what so ever, its like progressive, alternative, or soft rock why make tags about those even though they are also rock? Samething with jrock, its different and needs to be singled out from regular rock cuz its not the same so stop complaining" I listen to some of these so called "j-rock" bands, and I can say that they don't sound that different from western bands of the same genre. For example, X JAPAN sounds sometimes a lot like Iron Maiden. I agree that the most popular "j-rock" bands' vocalists have a quite unusual voice, which makes many ignorant fanboys/fangirls think the music is unique (I hate that kind of singing, by the way).
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jamesieoconnell
@Evita_Core ya, why do they have all their songs in CAPITALS, all of Dir en grey's English titles are in capitals, but their Japanese song titles, eg Ryoujoku no Ame, are in lower case :S
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Evita_Core
The japanese must be pretty clumsy. Because they always forget to turn off Caps lock, when they type their song titles.
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messedupdreamer
Yeah, the Japanese rock tends to be different from American or rock from any other country. The Japanese are awesome, innovative people. They deserve their own genres!
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Nakanamori
ar u insane peoples jamaican rock?i dont know .should i laugh or get angry??its funny but i become anry.J-ROCK is japanese rock,READ the information .duhh
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