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ElTigreNegro
Progressive is a genre, "japanese" rock is not a genre, is just the country of origin. If you make a "j-rock" tag, why not a "u-rock" for USA rock? "F-rock" for finland rock and so on?
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HighwayJoe
As I understand it, the "J" is there before "Rock" so that people who want to listen to Japanese Rock bands won't have to wade through oceans of Rock bands from everywhere else in the world. UK and US bands don't get singled out because they're pretty much the default setting; meaning, when most people say "Rock" they think of English-speaking bands. I don't mind the tag at all. It might not be the most correct terminology [it does rather dump a lot of different styles into a supposedly homogeneous tag], but at least I know I'll find Japanese Rock bands on here. It's a good starting place, at the very least.
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Ryosuke_Jun
J rock... It is possible to speak about it much.. But it is enough to hear once!
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ElTigreNegro
Mostly there are just two types of bands that you will find under this "j-rock" tag: bands that played the theme song for some anime and visual kei bands. That's it, it's more than clear that people who bought this thing as a genre are clueless anime fans. But anyway, there are lots of great japanaese rock bands that are neither "visual kei" or some other crap like that, it's a matter of looking in the right places, in other words, not looking bands by this tag.
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cogsturning
a non-existent genre getting boring? what a paradox. all this tag represents is a bunch of weeaboos who all listen to the same generic chart-toppers/anime-related/vk crap.
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allheroesfall
Maybe I'm not looking at the right places, but some of the bands in this genre are starting to get boring. Must be the same old song structures and drum rhythm. The kick-kick-snare pattern is starting to get painful to listen to.
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kuroi-sama
the other thing is that people got used to "jrock = visual kei", and so, we have for example Hide or Zilch tagged as "j-rock, visual kei". Ok, Hide was japanese (but not visual kei..), but Zilch was american, and totally NOT visual kei (but that's obviously not the problem, right? who would care :]). And mainly, this is what i mean by "most overused tag ever". sorry for my english.
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kuroi-sama
@dalnaki - you know, for example there is "polish rock" and i don't mind it - but, look at tags for Hey (veeery popular group here in Poland) - it goes "rock, female vocalists, polish rock, alternative" - so we know they're playing rock, the vocalist is female (i like to know that, personally), and that some people describe them as "alternative" - we have at least the basic concept about their music, don't we? and, for example, look at The GazettE page - "jrock, visual kei, japanese, jrock, rock". great.
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ElTigreNegro
The j-pop tag is hardly that "legitimate" as being a genre either, and equally useless as this one.
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Bravepower
This tag is nice just to distinguish Japanese rock artists from other countries. Otherwise we'd be left with [tag]rock[/tag] and [tag]Japanese[/tag], would both give us a hell of a lot of other stuff. That said, it doesn't really exist. The [tag]J-Pop[/tag] tag at least comes from a legitimate term.
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Cyber_Freak
justuxe Tu atsakėi Į mano komenta, reiškia tau buvo įdomu))))) Jeigu butu neidomu, tiesiog ignoruotum ką aš parašiau.
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Cyber_Freak
Im amazed at the amount of fat white people listening to this " mUsIc" on the site. I bet they listen to it more than JP do..
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slightlylesspie
But Jrock isn't different from regular rock besides the language. It would be justifiable if this music showed traditional Japanese influence, or something, but this is just plain old rock made by azns. Making the Jrock tag irrelevant and useless.
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ElTigreNegro
People that insist to use the "j" thing are mostly anime fanboys and people that just to feel "different" with their music taste.
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slightlylesspie
Yeah really, I don't call the Arctic Monkeys B-rock, Sick Puppies isn't A-rock, Finger eleven isn't C-rock, I don't see why people insist on labeling japanese music with that J, as if all rock is the same as long as it's made by the japanese. :/
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Shimbo-dono
J-rock is a classification or rather an umbrella term for musical acts from Japan that are Japanese that play rock or any or its sub-genre's. That being said, it is most definitely NOT a genre. A genre would be ambient rock, melodic rock, fucking brutal ass bitching metal; not j-rock.
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ElTigreNegro
No, japanese don't use "j-" tags for their music, where was that lie born? Anime fanboys are the ones who spread that nonesense it seems (not calling you one bravepower) But no, they simply call rock "rock" and pop just "pops", as simple as that.
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Bravepower
@ElTigreNegro: I'm pretty sure your tag "[tag]for 15 year olds who want to piss off their parents[/tag]" isn't a musical genre either. Tags =/= genres. Anyway, these terms originated in Japan to separate their music from that of the rest of the world, so they're completely legitimate.
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ElTigreNegro
Stop using this tag, "j" is not a genre, neither "j-metal" "j-pop" or any of that bullshit. Ugh....
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